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The 2022 Selections have proven more of the same -- like a flashback from 2020. Today we talk to someone else that's been in the game. Dr. Mark Sherwood ran for Governor of Oklahoma. You won't believe what he has to say about the "selection". Don't miss this.
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fighting back against the left's non stop attacks on liberty, freedom and America, America. This is don't tread on liberty. Jason Davis is on the air.
Jason Davis:Hey, welcome back to don't tread on liberty. Thanks for being here. I'm Jason Davis. We're back. We're going to talk more about the midterm selections. And you know, last week I had former US Senate candidate Daniel McCarthy on with me and of course, he was robbed back in the 2020 cycle with our fraudulent elections here in Arizona and someone that I've talked to in the past is back to talk about his run for Oklahoma governor, his former professional bodybuilder, retired police officer, former gubernatorial candidate for the state of Oklahoma. And now natural Pathak Doctor Mark Sherwood is back. Good to see you. How have you been?
Dr. Mark Sherwood:Hey, I'm doing well. Good to see you, too. It's nice to see you this time of year before a wonderful holiday season is upon us. Right?
Jason Davis:That's right. And I appreciate you making time for us here before the busy busy holidays. So thank you very much. Now, I teased this a little bit. But just to bring everybody up to speed the last time you were on i You were running for governor. And we talked about your platform. And of course, we totally support that. But I kind of teased you a little bit because the elections as proven by the Arizona audit. And you know, all the other forensic examiner like yo, Vaughn Pulitzer and others that have examined the ballots have proven extensive fraud, and not just in Arizona, but across the country. And so you were running for governor and I kind of jazzy a little bit about that. But now that the the selection is over. Tell me about your experience there in the general election. Do you think it was fair for you in Oklahoma?
Dr. Mark Sherwood:Well, it depends on what you mean, by fair, I appreciate your concept of selection. I love that term, you know, the play on words. But honestly, what I did learn was is that the pro constitution, pro God, pro rights, you know, within that context, it's not really possible to get elected status anymore. Because ultimately, you can go out here and work hard all you want. But if the machines and all this stuff are still locked into an algorithm format, it's never going to work. So I wasn't surprised. Let me just kind of say right now, because as you know, you know me enough. Now I went into it for the right reasons. Winning to me was being obedient to the call. So just put that out there. But what I did learn was is that there is an establishment out here. And this may be an unpopular thing to say. But in the establishment Republican Party and the establishment Democrats, the they're pretty much one in the same. There's very few constitution awareness, God loving patriots out there that are getting elected anymore. Sad to say,
Jason Davis:yeah, now, I'd use, you know, you say that word elected. And I would use it very loosely, I don't believe Oh, yeah, fair elections in this country anymore. I think these machines that are connected to the internet, are able to be manipulated. And it's actually a function of the software, where they do something called fraction magic. So it actually allows for what's called fractional voting. And this is done well, it started under the guise of, you know, for certain types of maybe ballot propositions where it affects maybe property owners. And if you own more property than somebody else, you get more votes than they get for a certain initiative. Right? Well, well, now they're able to manipulate that and expand it out to all votes. And giovane pellets are who examined all the Arizona ballots from the 2020 cycle. So that's exactly what they do. And so now, you know, and all the states use the same stuff, right? It's either Dominion or, you know, some other voting, there's like two or three of them that they all use. Yeah. So, I mean, I see that you're now coming around to where we've been in Arizona, we've been pushing for one day one vote on paper in person, no mail in ballots, precinct polling, hand count, Id required. Would you back that in Oklahoma
Dr. Mark Sherwood:1,000%. And I would even add some more things to it, and I'll talk about it. I think I'd be remiss if I didn't mention one aspect that I observed with my own eyes. This is me from experience in a major race, and my wife was right there with me. We watched as these early returns came there. And, and in our case, several races in Oklahoma were called with about nine to 10% 12% of the of the votes coming in. Now, how do you do that? First of all, that's statistically impossible. But we also observed as the person just continued to come in the percentages of the votes that they didn't change. Well, that again, the statistical probability of that is truly and so it didn't change. And I know that can occur, but then you get into it. And I looked at different in our own right, so like the different counties, and it was almost mirrored in different counties, with the exception of bigger counties, it was more weighted, where I would get less percentage. So it was really interesting to observe that but to get to your answer, yes, I think all those things I would absolutely, unequivocally support. And I'm going to add this little unique feature to it here that I think is needed. The only way I believe Jason, that we're going to get this thing fixed is we're going to fix it from a local level first. And if we don't do that, and we're dependent upon a federal solution to a local problem, we're gonna get ourselves in all kinds of hot water, we got to go back to the idea of the 10th amendment. I talked about that campaign. platform, but the sheriff is a higher ranking law enforcement official in the land. Right? Right. And so I'm supportive of a sheriff having videotaped locations at these, these polling places. And again, I use the analogy, I'm former law enforcement, as you know, having the radar on the side of the road, even though there's not a person out there writing tickets, that still makes you aware that somebody's watching, or makes you think somebody's watching. So I'm really supportive of having videotape at these polling places. Further, I'm supporting of having a reserve deputy or a deputy at these places to be there on site, right. And then the third will of that thing is going to be to make the votes, which are hand counted on paper, with ID verify with signature. And idea, of course, those votes should become part of the evidentiary chain of custody until they are counted, and sufficiently observed and then released for the good of the count. Right. And so if one county does that, it's going to ensure that at least the voters of that county, and it doesn't matter which side of the coin you're on. But at least the voters of that county are going to be confident that my vote was counted. I showed up in cast and it was right, it was me, and it got counted one and I don't think there's not there's probably not one person listening right now that would not agree with that being very important.
Jason Davis:Yeah, absolutely. And you're absolutely right. It's got to be done locally, and it's obviously a local issue, the counties run the elections. So the County Board of Supervisors runs the election in the county, the State Secretary of State's office oversees elections statewide, and they kind of make a rule book about how they should be done. But the counties it's the county's job to administer. Now, the problem. Now the problem is, is that like it, like for example, here in Arizona, our so called Magga. First Republicans have been unwilling to support one day one vote. In fact, the Maga Republicans have hindered and blocked election integrity in Arizona. And as far as I can tell, they're just as bad as the Democrats. So if we don't have elections that are real, and we got a bunch of people in there that are phonies to begin with, how are we ever going to get this square?
Dr. Mark Sherwood:Yeah, and I agree with what you said about there being a pseudo party because it is, Look, man, I learned this the hard way. I've never been afraid to face the bowels ahead that are for the right reason, you know, in other words, to interpose on behalf of the people for the cause, right. That's just kind of how I'm wired. And I think we need more people that are wired like that, to stand up like that. Having said that, the establishment Republicans are indeed just as poor of leaders, as the Democrats. They are politicians man and a politician. Their job is to go out here and persuade people to like them slash vote for them. Now, having said that, when you live your life in order to say what is necessary do what is necessary and be whatever is necessary to be liked you progress or I should say regress, then a line of compromise, you will compromise your standards, you'll compromise your principles, you'll compromise your your morals, your ethics, because all you want to do is be like, it's like a big popularity thing. And they want to be powerful on both sides of the aisle. And it doesn't work well to having proper elections because it's driven by this big money, nonsensical stuff. And that's another prong of my proposed approach that we would be able to cap spending on this stuff. You know, because what does George Soros have to do with Arizona? Seriously, what what is that? Nothing?
Jason Davis:Yeah, good question. And, and it's not just him. Now, we have all these NGOs, and, you know, all these super PACs, and they're all you know, like every ballot proposition we had was, you know, 100% funded by these out of state, NGOs and PACs and stuff. And it's like, you got all these people funding stuff in Arizona is like, why? You know, and you know, why? Because they're trying to flip a red state blue. That's why, but
Dr. Mark Sherwood:that goes back to that global or sort of national agenda, doesn't it? You know, Arizona, and Arizonans should be about Arizona. And that means that the representatives should re present or represent the desires of the Arizonans and like these federal officials, like the senators and the congressman from Arizona, their job is to go to Washington to re present or represent the desires and the will of the people of Arizona, not the other way around. And it's flipped around so much, Jason worry. Now you have the federal branch of government controlling everything. And I'm hoping that maybe a sheriff and there's a few out there that will eventually just push back and say, You know what, I appreciate you, but don't need your help. I'm good. And do it that way. And if they did, it would fix things. One County at a time.
Jason Davis:Yeah. And you know, there's a few that will and there's a few that have, actually, but they're in the minority. Maybe you should, Sheriff mark?
Dr. Mark Sherwood:Well, you know, I've been asked that question. It's interesting. You know, I'll give you a little bit of a side note tangential but related story to prove a negative point. In Oklahoma, there are 77 counties, okay. And every state has all these counties, and each county has the county sheriff and the county seat and all that stuff. That's the beauty of our constitutional republic the way it should have checks and balances with the people being the governors of the government. Right. The governors of the government is the people. Having said that, we actually brought a former constitutional fighting Sheriff Richard Mack, we brought him to Oklahoma, right? Yeah. Yeah, Chrisann Hall, we brought them to educate. And we paid for it to come in to Oklahoma. And again, what do I have to gain from that? Nothing. But I did set a tone for an event. a one day event in Oklahoma is the middle of our campaign. And I invited my other team invite all 77 sheriffs, from Oklahoma. Interestingly enough, me being in law enforcement, I had the distinct honor of being the supervisor, to to have three of the current 77 sheriff's when they were working for me at the police department, right. And then I knew the other one very well. So three, and then I actually knew when I fought with and blood, sweat and tears third with of the 77 that were invited, three showed up. Because they become well, they become politicians, as you see. And anytime you have a election selection process, where we are running a race in order to be reelected, or running a race in order to not lose, we get shifted into a thing where we don't stand up for the right things because we don't wanna lose our job. But again, we got to stand up for what's right. As opposed to standing for what's wrong to maintain our position. That still in the room. Yeah,
Jason Davis:it's very interesting that only three showed up and it was the three that you knew from before, right? No. Okay.
Dr. Mark Sherwood:So I know right? You talk about my heart thinking man and I'm, I wear my feelings on my shoulder sleeve sometime. Know that I have a heart, but I was like sunk. And I call them text them. Nothing. Nothing. They they just and I did not do that for my good. I didn't do that for their endorsement. I did it for the good of the people of Oklahoma, you know,
Jason Davis:I think is fascinating. Mark is that? You know, I'm former law enforcement myself, right. I'm a former sheriff. And of course, and of course, I think it's fascinating that the sheriff's, I mean, they're actually shooting themselves in the foot, you know, they're, they're, they're giving away their constitutional authority to someone else. By not by not be willing to take a stand not be willing to exert their rightful authority as chief law enforcement officer who's going to do it then. Okay, so now we leave the city police to do it, or you're going to leave the politicians to do it. It's like, no, that's your job to do. And you're not doing it. Right.
Dr. Mark Sherwood:Well, they have shifted it over to other than them, because they don't want to stand up for the right things. It's the only thing I can think of man. And,
Jason Davis:and you and I can't know the right things maybe? Well,
Dr. Mark Sherwood:yeah, I think that it's one of two things, you know, they're even either cowards, and I use that word to you. Because you know, exactly. We don't use that word lightly at all. When you're cowardice to stand up for the right thing for fear of losing something. You don't even know how to stand for the right thing. You don't have it in here. And to me, at that point, you're not fit to wear that badge, whatever that means. And I am, I'm convinced of that, you know, because it takes courage to raise your hand up and say, I'm going to protect the rights of the people and honor the Constitution, you know, of the state. And and this the country's constitution with my life if need be. You know, if that's your job, how can you swear, protect somebody you don't even know about? If you don't know about that your fault? And if you do know, and don't stand up, that's also your fault.
Jason Davis:Yeah, I look around. And, you know, I, I talk to people and have contact with law enforcement today. And things that I still hear, you know, because I still kind of hear things from time to time. It's just really funny how different things are, I mean, you know, government's sole job is to protect our rights. Yeah. And that is government's sole job. And instead, they seem bent on just violating everyone's rights. It's absurd.
Dr. Mark Sherwood:Government today has turned into a power hungry, narcissistic practice, to generate control over people. So the people will follow your whim and serve your every need. But true government the way it should be in true leaders are meant to bend over backwards to serve the people. It's flipped around like, polar opposite ends. And, and I gotta tell you, man, that makes me very sad. Because I joined the law enforcement career back in 1989, and served for 24 years, 10 years in which the SWAT team and I met some heroes, man, last some people that I knew, but I met some of the finest most upstanding, amazing human beings in the whole world. And you know what I'm talking about. There's that thing inside you that says, Man, I know what you've been through. And it's, it's more than just a thin blue line that protects against chaos mean? It protects against over arching reaching government, that's what it does. It's what you're supposed to do. And yet for whatever reason, now, they've been co opted? Yeah, we are, are we are it's like, we're compromised. Yeah,
Jason Davis:everything's been compromised. And of course, this is all being driven by a globalist movement. Because you see it in every country on the face of the earth, the same things are happening. They're saying the same things. They're doing the same things. They're all the same. So you know, it's an organized movement. Now, they're all taking orders from somewhere. And you know, I have some ideas of where that is, and I'm sure you did, too. But we already talked about election integrity. If we don't fix elections,
Unknown:forget it, right. Yes.
Jason Davis:Okay. Now, the other thing that I think we need to all be doing simultaneously, is building a parallel system. The people have to have the ability, because this system is teetering on the edge, right? The economy is teetering on the edge, the law enforcement, the government, but everything right, so we need to have a parallel system and we need to have Christian business This is popping up for everything that you can think of, you know, banking, communications, internet. Stores, I mean everything, right? Because it's either going to, we're either going to get our elections fixed, or we're not. But we're going to need a different system if that doesn't happen.
Dr. Mark Sherwood:Well, I agree with that. And I think the different system is one that affects every walk of life. I'll give you an example. Like in our own life, right now, as me being a doctor of nature, Rob and my wife, Doctor of osteopathy, and our big staff, which nurse practitioners and, look, we're all about keeping people well man and keep them out of that system. So we exist right now as an alternate system. It's a way to do business in regard to this true idea of health care. But we're going to find out that just like I described there, in the system in which we operate, it's a system that has stood the test of time, the system that we're trying to get away from is a brand new system, it's been around, you know, 100 150 years, it's a new system, right. And so I want to go back to the systems of old that work that are about people that are about wellness, and with our economic system, we're going to have to come up with a system of bartering again, of unique transference of, of goods and services, the way we used to do it, and we can do that, again, we're going to have to come up with a way to create energy on our own, to be self sustainable, to be self governing, to where we do not need the dependence upon the federal government for a check for Madison, for housing for all this mess. We're gonna have to do that. And I just don't I don't want to be a naysayer, I don't see, in our current system, a way that our election selection process is corrected. I don't, because you're still seeing people that are campaigning right now. From the federal level, I'm going to fix the elections. No, you're not. Your job should be to support the local candidate. So they can fix them. But you won't do that. Because you're about your own self glorification. I'm just being very transparent with you right there. We're going to have to come up with a system of government within the states and local areas. That's alternative. I know, there's some states like Texas, they've got the Republic of Texas as an alternate form of government. And I think that that's we're going to have to go, I just do and I It pains me to say we pull that nuclear option, you know, like that they use a metaphoric term. But it seems like that's where we are right now.
Jason Davis:I agree. I'm not sure that we have the leaders even on the state level that have the ability, the gumption or the guts to actually do something like that. You know, so that's really the problem. And now, you know, we're seeing our local elections impacted, just like the federal ones, and this is only going to get worse from here. I don't know. I'm, you know, I don't know, I think we're both it sounds like we're kind of both on the same page with this. So your campaign obviously wasn't successful, what is going to be next for you?
Dr. Mark Sherwood:Well, I mean, I'd be success maybe a little differently, you know, said yesterday, the call we communicated a message. I learned a lot about the Constitution. I learned a lot about people so I'm super pleased with that. No regrets. I communicated my love for God and country and my wife, every single speech and so no lost there. I don't know we're gonna keep out here fighting and like we are, you know, I'm still out of here at pushing every day we've got a brand new television show that we communicate, physical, emotional, spiritual, governmental, and financial health. We've developed Kingdom fuel, which is a brand new food supply $5 a meal, organic, pea, full spectrum vitamins and minerals, greens and reds and full fibres soluble and insoluble so we're trying to come up with solutions. We're going to continue to make some movies that are meant to be family friendly, wholesome, inspiring educational entertainment, full length films and runner. We've done our fourth one our fifth now, and if we're told to run again, if God says do it, I mean, I will, you know, but it's like, man, it was hard. It was really hard. I never worked hard in my whole life. Never.
Jason Davis:I believe it. And to be honest, until they fix elections, why would you? I mean, what it's like, yeah, it's like playing it's like playing a rigged game. I mean, why would you do it?
Dr. Mark Sherwood:Exactly. And that's a hard thing to understand. And, and I gotta tell you, you know, this is people are listening right now hear hear him My heart with this man, you want to believe down deep that it's not that bad? You really do. Oh, I couldn't be that bad. Yeah, I'm telling you right now stop reality is going to sit in I'm not saying that it's going to that it's not going to change. I'm not saying it's going to change. I'm saying that it really is that that? Yeah, it really is. And this is, you understand reality like this, you can actually begin to formulate a plan to respond to it.
Jason Davis:Having having been heavily involved here in Arizona, and been down at the Capitol so many times and, you know, confronting these lawmakers and talking to them. I mean, I, you know, I see what they do I see the games that go on, and how and how they intentionally block things that are good for the people, even the ones that, you know, say they're on your side. So how I promise you and I tell this, I say this every week, and nobody believes me, however bad you think it is, I promise you it's much, much worse, I promise you. So I totally get where you're coming from with that. But still, I think you should run for sheriff mark.
Dr. Mark Sherwood:Well, I might, you know, I'll just I'll be obedient. And one thing about wherever I'm at, and whenever I'm doing with God's help, I'm gonna stand up for the right things. And my wife supportive of that will see whatever, whatever happens happens. I'm here to in the meantime to support and communicate truth. And, man, Jason, I'm super honored to be with you on this broadcast today. I mean, there's no right I'd rather be than right now communicating truth and hope, through a broadcast that actually is standing on those principles. And so it's an honor man, and and so I'll do that every chance I get, because right now, it's a good platform. And hopefully, people are receptive. And if one person gets out there, and sort of, if you pardon, the play on words, gets awakened, becomes really, truly woke the right way, you know, maybe they'll be able to make a change on their local level.
Jason Davis:Well, I appreciate those words. And since you say that, I want to run something past you. Because, you know, to this point, I've been doing this broadcast now for the last two years. And I've mainly been focusing on talking to people like yourself and other leaders and political leaders, sheriffs, and politicians, and I've had doctors and lawyers and you know, Thomas wrens and a lot of high profile people on this program. But mainly to get the word out, like you said, awareness, right, let's, let's wake people up, let's let them see what's actually going on, you know, this COVID stuff is really how it started for me. But now, you know, I've done that so long, I've done this and trying to just wake people up. And still, you know, a lot of people are not. So I'm, I'm wondering if I should start to pivot on what you're doing, which is trying to find solutions. And I think next year, all my broadcasts are going to be about solutions, alternative options for different things, and how to prepare and how to become self sufficient. What do you think of that? Is that a good idea?
Dr. Mark Sherwood:I think it's a great idea. That's kind of where we've gone. Jason, aren't we, you know, we go back to that kingdom fuel. That's right on our website, sherwood.tv. That's we have it right there. It's a solution. And people can't fight for our country. They can't fight with the Constitution, they can't stand for God and communicate his goodness, if they're dead. So I want to make sure people understand that we have to communicate solution of truth. You know, where do people go to get a hub central hub information? How can they connect with other groups? I think it's a brilliant idea. I am 1,000% supportive of that, and lend anything I can do to support that endeavor. Because if we can get people linked together with the solution oriented process, and ideas, we can share ideas like this, this is sharing ideas. Maybe there's an idea about a sheriff out there that go hey, man, you know, maybe I want to do that. Well connect with us and walk you through the process. Maybe we don't have the idea laid out perfectly, but maybe it's an idea that actually will get some traction and feet. And it just starts with one county. It starts with one life. It starts with one family. It starts with one community, and we may be the minority. But let us understand the 56 people that signed the Declaration of Independence. Man, they were very much the minority too. And I consider myself as I sit here right now, being one that would be would have been willing to do that. And again, I wasn't around back then. But I believe I would have been willing to do that. And I think part of our law enforcement background would lend themselves to that. Value and courage, courage as well.
Jason Davis:Yeah, I think you're right. And as you well know, it only takes 3% to change the world. So I think last question. And last topic, I think that you really nailed it before, you know, you're very vocal about your faith. And I think really, that's where that's where the rubber meets the road in this battle, this country, you know, largely has turned its back on God. And I think, until we go back to God, we're gonna have some serious problems.
Dr. Mark Sherwood:I agree, you know, our country's constitution and everything about it. And even the hearts of our founding fathers was formed with the awareness of who God is. Maybe they weren't all strong Christians, or whatever, but they did recognize who God is. And I believe God is who He says He is, I believe that I need him to have a moral compass in life, to have a sense of virtue. Without him. And without his ideals, I would have no remedy of right or wrong, which is why people today are pushing his name and pushing it away from mainstream, because, you know, God represents truth, and godly principles, work for even not an ungodly people, which is the beauty of America. Not everybody in America is Christ centered or God centric. But if we will understand who God is Jason once again, and acknowledge Him as the creator of everything and realize that we all have a choice. And one of the greatest gifts God's given us is our ability to choose just to say, you know, I can choose to, you know, eat a french fry, or I can choose the kingdom fuel, I can choose to walk in a bar in front of a bus, or I can choose to wait on the bus to go by, I can choose to do something dumb, or I can choose to do something smart. It's a choice. I can choose to follow the Constitution or not, I can choose to break the law or not. That's the beauty of who God is. Right? It's the beauty of your country. And if we can get this back together, I think we have a chance. Because there's more. There's so many millions of people here, and the 10s of millions of people that believe and hold on to the things I just talked about, and we're talking about. They do. And I believe it's the majority, but they've been silenced. They've been apathetic, too darn long, and it's time for them to step up, speak up and be heard again. There's a time to sit on your butt. And there's a time to stand. There's a time to be silent. And there's a time to speak. There's a time to be whispering and there's a time to shout.
Jason Davis:There's a season for everything. Yes, yeah. Ecclesiastes
Dr. Mark Sherwood:four. We got to be ready for all of it right now.
Jason Davis:That's right. Well, I totally agree. Author, filmmaker police officer, naturopathic doctor, Mark Sherwood, thank you for being here. God bless you.
Dr. Mark Sherwood:God bless you, Jason. Thanks for having me, man.
Jason Davis:Anytime.
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